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May 22, 2013 / compassioninpolitics

Reflections on Answering the K Debaters Checklist

What does the K Debaters Checklist become in the block?

1. It seems mostly a way to confuse the other team.
2. to do ballot/framework stuff for their other K.
3. whatever independent arguments they can extract from this or the block extension of it.

I didn’t see the Kappler….but maybe they roll with that in the block or they add it in.

Is Kurasawa more about apocalyptic images or ?????? I seem to remember a Kurasawa in answers to
the same argument. But I may be mistaken.

They say “Over accumulation of information is dissuasive”

Why did the author write their book with X amount of pages and Y amount of footnotes?

Seems like a hyper generalization. There is no brightline for info overload. Plus the idea of info overload is pretty subjective to the individual….ie the participants and the judges.

It would seem if you can answer their critique of images and futurism…..that you should read “our rhetoric is productive” without a world of Congress and power. Or you could read the evidence from the NDT finals ballot on the issue of fiat.

* By the way the links below won’t work. You could google search for the titles or go on the High School Debate wiki and get the original sites via download.


First, I would repeat what I said earlier in the thread. What outsiders think on this point is 100% irrelevant. They aren’t in the room and if they are in the room they out outnumbered (aka democracy).

You don’t have any pronositication of how it would be otherwise (info intake, info uptake, speed, retention, etc..). There is no A/B test for that for direct 1 to 1 comparison. How do we know your method doesn’t overcorrect? How do we know your alternative isn’t worse than the problem?

And we have no feedback mechanism to determine what is the “right” speed. At best we have “CLEAR!” To assert there is

one best speed for everyone in the room….and I know it…….and I’m going to win because I know it……… more than little self serving.


We call our argument the K-Debaters Checklist:

1. They read the 1AC and nothing has changed, this empirically denies their solvency.

2. Inherency double bind: either the affirmative would solve for extinction and actors would do the plan in the status quo OR actors are not rational and the persuasive techniques of the 1AC fail, so vote negative on presumption

3. No levers of power
Schlag in 1991
(pierre, colorado law prof. 139 u. Pa. L. Rev.801, april)

4. There is no Truth – we did not experience in real terms the events of the 1AC which means we can never be sure of the truth of their authorship. Preference personal experience over the claims of so-called “Experts”.

5. Over accumulation of information is dissuasive
Gans 2010
(Herbert J. is the Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology at Columbia University. “News & the news media in the digital age: implications for democracy” http://www.mitpressj…ed.2010.139.2.8 SRM)

6. Fiat double bind – Either the harms to the 1AC are true and they cannot solve for extinction before they control the levers of power OR their harms are constructed for the purpose of alarmism which makes them symbolic terrorists.

7. In the Future There Will be Robots
Lanza 2010
(Robert Lanza is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is currently Chief Scientific Officer at Advanced Cell Technology, and a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine. “Will Machines Take Over the World? The Scientific Turning Point” http://www.huffingto…m_b_569948.html

8. Their alarmist predictions create a culture of fear that destroys existing public engagement—causes global catastrophe and justifies structural violence in the name of probabilistic scenarios.
Kurasawa 4 – Professor of Sociology, York University of Toronto, Fuyuki, “Cautionary Tales: The Global Culture of Prevention and the Work of Foresight”, Constellations Volume 11, No 4,…ons Article.pdf


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