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March 28, 2012 / compassioninpolitics

What we can learn from Socrates as a teacher?

What we can learn from Socrates as a teacher?

1) Feedback
2) Case method (although not as advanced as Harvard business school)
3) Questions, probing (assumptions & values & proof)
4) Debate
5) meaning, communication & wisdom is key
6) the importance of truth and justice
7) naturally vs. conventionally rightness (?)–separate law & ethics–law isn’t ethical intrinsically. (status quo & power)
8] Provokations like Trial balloons (false solutions)

Part II: Thoughts from Plato’s Gorgias on Persuasion & Rhetoric:

I got some of these ideas from Tim Barrs lecture here which is about Plato’s Gorgias.

1) How do we separate ethics & persuasion?
2) Is this happening today? The technocrats in public policy.
3) An answer to deal with ethical non-cognitivism.
4) What is the stakes: what is at risk? (ethical involvement–your ethos)
5) We should redeem Gorgias–not just the facts
6) Consensus–should want to come to a reasoned consensus–Pragma-dialectics (reason & trust). Goal is consensu–goal is agreement. (formal rules of consensus–much more ethical than typical persuasion)
7) Dilberation–like Habermas (everyone gets the same time–in “ideal speech situation”)
8] Dialog-David Bohm
9) Pablo Friere-Dialog (literate & non-literate–things we have in common…) Their worldviews are all expresses.
10) Rhetoric only with exgencies. We can’t ignore rhetoric–last resort. (but we’re always in an exigent situation)
11) Thought experiment: What if all experts are trustworthy–[I disagree with the assessment–doesn’t understand problem solving & decision making–and still need critical thinking. But the expert opinion may not explore all the limits or explorations]
12) Occupational psychosis of Dewey–Our way of thinking (our scientific psychosis)

(finished at 22)

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